{"id":1685,"date":"2015-10-07T05:42:21","date_gmt":"2015-10-07T10:42:21","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/rosewhitemusic.com\/piano\/?p=1685"},"modified":"2015-10-07T05:42:21","modified_gmt":"2015-10-07T10:42:21","slug":"a-question-about-rhythm-in-triadic-memories","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/rosewhitemusic.com\/piano\/2015\/10\/07\/a-question-about-rhythm-in-triadic-memories\/","title":{"rendered":"A question about rhythm in Triadic Memories"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-1686\" src=\"http:\/\/rosewhitemusic.com\/piano\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/TMopening.png\" alt=\"Opening of Triadic memories\" width=\"600\" height=\"263\" srcset=\"https:\/\/rosewhitemusic.com\/piano\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/TMopening.png 600w, https:\/\/rosewhitemusic.com\/piano\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/TMopening-300x132.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>The figure above shows the opening four measures of Feldman&#8217;s\u00a0<em>Triadic memories. <\/em>Almost\u00a0every rhythm in the\u00a0first half of the\u00a0piece is present in these four bars. The time signature is 3\/8, but\u00a0the primary rhythmic patterns operate within a group of four eighths over that 3\/8 measure. The first part of the piece is almost entirely made up of two-note phrases, and left hand in these first four measures plays the four slightly different rhythmic patterns for those phrases that dominate the first 252 measures of the piece (about twenty minutes or so at my tempo).<\/p>\n<p>Starting around measure 105,\u00a0Feldman creates\u00a0a texture in which multiple layers of these rhythms are played simultaneously. At measure 118 he starts a passage built entirely on a particular set of three interwoven phrase patterns:<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-1689\" src=\"http:\/\/rosewhitemusic.com\/piano\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/TMpassage.png\" alt=\"Triadic memories, measures 118-122\" width=\"700\" height=\"304\" srcset=\"https:\/\/rosewhitemusic.com\/piano\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/TMpassage.png 700w, https:\/\/rosewhitemusic.com\/piano\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/TMpassage-300x130.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>I started learning this by\u00a0figuring out where the beats fell\u00a0and then practicing with the metronome to get the patterns into my mind and fingers.\u00a0Each measure here (after the first) has the same set of three patterns, one in 3\/8 and two in 4:3. Because the two dotted eighths in 3\/8 just bisect the measures, I count this passage as\u00a0four\u00a0beats\u00a0(in fact, despite the 3\/8 meter, throughout the first part of\u00a0<em>Triadic memories<\/em> I feel the pulse\u00a0in four). Here&#8217;s the result (with apologies for\u00a0my currently out-of-tune piano):<\/p>\n<audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-1685-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/rosewhitemusic.com\/piano\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/JPTMexample.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/rosewhitemusic.com\/piano\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/JPTMexample.mp3\">http:\/\/rosewhitemusic.com\/piano\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/JPTMexample.mp3<\/a><\/audio>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>As you can see and hear, there are two notes in each measure that occur simultaneously (e.g., the F of the bottom line and the C-sharp of the middle line in the second measure).<\/p>\n<p>But as I started on this passage, something didn&#8217;t sound right to me. There was something a bit square about the rhythm, something a bit lumpy about the texture, and those two simultaneous high F&#8217;s in the fourth measure seemed strange. I went to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.discogs.com\/Morton-Feldman-Aki-Takahashi-Triadic-Memories\/release\/1450387\" target=\"_blank\">Aki Takahashi&#8217;s recording of the piece<\/a> to hear what it sounded like in her performance, and I found something surprising:<\/p>\n<audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-1685-2\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/rosewhitemusic.com\/piano\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/AkiTMexample.mp3?_=2\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/rosewhitemusic.com\/piano\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/AkiTMexample.mp3\">http:\/\/rosewhitemusic.com\/piano\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/AkiTMexample.mp3<\/a><\/audio>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>In Takahashi&#8217;s performance, none of the notes are played simultaneously: the ones that are aligned in the score are played slightly apart.<\/p>\n<p>The score examples I&#8217;ve shown so far are from the typeset\u00a0score, but as I described in <a href=\"http:\/\/rosewhitemusic.com\/piano\/2015\/09\/26\/hand-made-music-feldmans-scores\/\">my previous post<\/a>, I use the\u00a0manuscript facsimile edition, and it turns out that this helps to understand this passage and why Takahashi plays it the way she does.\u00a0Here&#8217;s how that same passage looks in the manuscript score:<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-1692\" src=\"http:\/\/rosewhitemusic.com\/piano\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/TM118MS.png\" alt=\"Triadic Memories, meas. 118-122, manuscript\" width=\"700\" height=\"366\" srcset=\"https:\/\/rosewhitemusic.com\/piano\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/TM118MS.png 700w, https:\/\/rosewhitemusic.com\/piano\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/10\/TM118MS-300x157.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>The\u00a0note durations are all the same, but Feldman has quite clearly written them so that the alignment matches the way that Takahashi plays them. That F and C-sharp, for example, aren&#8217;t aligned, but rather the F appears slightly before the C-sharp.<\/p>\n<p>I play from this manuscript facsimile score, but that subtle difference in vertical alignment went right\u00a0by me. If I noticed it at all, I probably just attributed it to a slip in Feldman&#8217;s copying. But going back and looking at it, it&#8217;s clearly not a matter of\u00a0a bit of a sloppy manuscript. The rhythmic pattern\u00a0of this measure appear many times in\u00a0<em>Triadic memories <\/em>(108 times, to be exact),\u00a0and Feldman notates them with exactly the same alignment every time.<\/p>\n<p>I asked Aki about this issue and got this response:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Thank you for your patience! The reason for\u00a0this delay in answering is just I first wanted to check your question on my own score which I had to look for in the shelves imagining there might be some comments or anything about it. There was no comment there. So, I guess I did it that way from the visual reason and also by logical(?) reason to show the three different voices clearly! If we play this section only mathematically, then, in the 4th measure for example, how should we play the two high F notes? Anyway, I\u2019d played this piece many times before Morton who coached me first and then he heard me play in concerts in various occasions.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Aki and Roger Woodward are the joint dedicatees of\u00a0<em>Triadic memories.\u00a0<\/em>I listened to Woodward&#8217;s recording and, sure enough, he plays this rhythm the same way, with no notes sounding simultaneously. I then checked out more recent recordings by Louis Goldstein, Markus Hinterhauser, Sabine Liebner, and Marilyn Nonken. All of them play this pattern with the\u00a0notes aligned, not separate.<\/p>\n<p>So who&#8217;s right here?\u00a0The &#8220;misaligned&#8221; version of Takahashi and Woodward clearly goes against the strict interpretation of the rhythms notated, but is supported by Feldman&#8217;s manuscript and by his supervision\u00a0of their performances. To my mind, it also makes more musical sense, and that&#8217;s the primary reason I&#8217;ve chosen to play it that way (although my reverence for Aki Takahashi&#8217;s playing influences me as well). That said, I can&#8217;t fault other pianists for playing the notation as written.<\/p>\n<p>Whatever position one takes on how to play those 108 measures, it does reveal another reason to have these manuscript facsimile editions of Feldman&#8217;s music. Takahashi and Woodward certainly played from manuscript facsimile scores (nothing else existed at the time of their premieres). I have no idea which version of the score the other pianists used, but my hunch is that most or all of them worked from typeset scores. Did the score shape their performance choices? It seems quite likely to me. But beyond this, without the manuscript we\u00a0would\u00a0completely miss the possibility of Feldman intending his notation to be read in this way. Here a question about performance practice is clarified by the original hand-written copy of the score.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The manuscript score and early performances reveal an alternative interpretation of a persistent rhythm in Triadic Memories<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"","ast-site-content-layout":"default","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","ast-disable-related-posts":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"default","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"footnotes":""},"categories":[23],"tags":[113],"class_list":["post-1685","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-feldman2","tag-triadic-memories"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.1.1 - 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