{"id":2340,"date":"2024-10-22T13:30:38","date_gmt":"2024-10-22T18:30:38","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/rosewhitemusic.com\/piano\/?p=2340"},"modified":"2024-10-22T13:32:03","modified_gmt":"2024-10-22T18:32:03","slug":"talking-about-zen-and-john-cage","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/rosewhitemusic.com\/piano\/2024\/10\/22\/talking-about-zen-and-john-cage\/","title":{"rendered":"Talking about Zen and John Cage"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"719\" height=\"352\" src=\"https:\/\/rosewhitemusic.com\/piano\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/ChuangYenLecture.jpg\" alt=\"Me giving the lecture on Zen and Cage at Chuang Yen Monastery\" class=\"wp-image-2353\" srcset=\"https:\/\/rosewhitemusic.com\/piano\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/ChuangYenLecture.jpg 719w, https:\/\/rosewhitemusic.com\/piano\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/ChuangYenLecture-300x147.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 719px) 100vw, 719px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>There has been much written about John Cage and his interest in Zen Buddhism. It is often highlighted as a source of his radically empirical aesthetic, his embrace of silence, and his reliance on randomness in his music. In my own writings, however, I&#8217;ve avoided the subject. I devoted a couple of pages to Zen in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cambridge.org\/us\/universitypress\/subjects\/music\/twentieth-century-and-contemporary-music\/music-john-cage?format=PB&amp;isbn=9780521565448\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">my book on Cage&#8217;s music<\/a>, but that&#8217;s about it. <a href=\"https:\/\/rosewhitemusic.com\/piano\/writings\/cage-spirituality\/\">My extended writing on Cage&#8217;s spiritual journey<\/a> has hardly any mention of Zen at all.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But, like <a href=\"https:\/\/rosewhitemusic.com\/piano\/writings\/john-cages-silent-pieces\/\"><em>4\u2032 33\u2033<\/em>, the silent piece<\/a> (another perennial Cage subject that I avoided for years), Zen has been nagging at the back of my mind ever since I wrote that series about Cage&#8217;s spiritual journey. Then, out of the blue, the opportunity arose to take a deeper look. I received an invitation from the library at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.baus.org\/en\/7-28-zen-and-the-music-of-john-cage-james-pritchett-musicologist-woo-ju-memorial-librarys-2024-music-buddhism-series\/\">Chuang Yen Monastery in Carmel, New York<\/a> to speak about Zen and John Cage. They were planning a series of concerts and talks on the theme of Buddhism and music, and this was a topic that was of interest to them. I happily accepted the invitation, and I delivered my talk in late July. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=pOOMH2iBzwc\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">It&#8217;s now available on YouTube<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Preparing the lecture, I immersed myself once again in sources that I hadn&#8217;t looked at since I wrote my book on Cage over thirty years ago. Overall, I&#8217;m still in agreement with what I wrote then:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>The relationship of Cage&#8217;s composition to his study of Zen Buddhism was not one in which Zen &#8220;influenced&#8221; him to act and think in certain ways: Cage&#8217;s understanding of Zen was shaped as much by his compositional concerns as his composition was shaped by his interest in Zen.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>I&#8217;d modify that today to say that Zen didn&#8217;t so much shape Cage&#8217;s music as it provided him a framework to justify and explain it. As such, I see Zen&#8217;s impact far more prominently in Cage&#8217;s writings than in his music. I have a lot more knowledge of Buddhism (partly from personal experience) than I had thirty years ago, and the clash between my take on Buddhism and Cage&#8217;s was a new development for me as well. As a follow up, I&#8217;m planning to write a series of more in-depth essays in the near future about subjects related to Zen and Cage.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The lecture is about an hour and was tailored to a non-specialist audience: people who know something about Buddhism but probably not a lot about Cage. A note about the audio: the recording quality of the lecture is pretty good, but the musical examples distort in the louder passages. The lecture lasts an hour, I played the complete <a href=\"https:\/\/cageedition.bandcamp.com\/album\/complete-john-cage-edition-11-orchestral-works-i-mode41\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Mode recording of Cage&#8217;s <em>Ryoanji<\/em><\/a> (starting at about 1:05:30), and then there&#8217;s a short question-and-answer period (starting at 1:23:30).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"2024 07 28 Library\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/pOOMH2iBzwc?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I recently had the opportunity to deliver a lecture on a subject I&#8217;ve been avoiding: Zen and the music of John Cage.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":2353,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"","ast-site-content-layout":"default","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","ast-disable-related-posts":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"set","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"footnotes":""},"categories":[61,5],"tags":[46],"class_list":["post-2340","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-concerts-events-travel","category-cage","tag-spirituality"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.1.1 - 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